GOFF: So there's some converging evidence that it starts around the age that puberty starts so at the onset of teenage years and adolescence. MARTIN: At what age does this affect start to be seen? How young can a boy be before he starts to be seen as older than he really is? And replicating previous work by Sandra Graham, Brian Lowery, Jennifer Eberhardt, other folks who had found similar kinds of things, people saw the black children as much older than the white children of the same age suspected of the same crime. We have that next to the picture and just people how old does this person look. So we had them suspected of misdemeanors.Īnd we describe the misdemeanor like vandalism or getting into a scuffle at school or they were suspected of felonies like car theft or something like that. But as we kept going, we said in a criminal justice context where this matters the most, they would have information about something that the boy was suspected of. We first just showed people pictures of boys of various ages and of various races, and asked them to guess how old they were. GOFF: Well, we started simple and then got more complex. MARTIN: So how did you go about studying this question or framing this question? And seeing the ways in which black boys get treated differently in the criminal justice system, for instance, that black boys are 18 times more likely to be tried as an adult than are white boys. But have to say, what inspired me to this research in particular was research that had been done previously showing that black boys, in particular, are seen as older than they are. GOFF: Well, having been a young black man myself, having grown up in integrated spaces, I have had a chance to see the ways in which young black men get treated differently. MARTIN: What inspired you to take a look at this issue? What made you think about this? PHILIP ATIBA GOFF: Thanks for having me, Michel. He's also an assistant professor of social psychology at UCLA, and he's with us now. The title of that report is "The Essence of Innocence: Consequences of Dehumanizing Black Children." Philip Atiba Goff is that one of the lead authors of that research. The report suggests that this could have serious implications for the way African-American boys are viewed by the criminal justice system and by society as a whole. And it found that African-American boys as young as 10 years old were significantly less likely to be viewed as children than their white peers. This work was recently published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. We're going to have a variety of opinions about that.īut first, we're going to take a closer look at some new research about the way some boys are viewed by adults. She says it dampens girls' desire for leadership. In a few minutes, we'll dip into the debate over whether we should stop calling some girls bossy as Facebook executive Sheryl Sandberg suggests we should. We're going to spend the next part of the program talking about some new conversations people are having about the way we look and talk about kids, both boys and girls. I'm Michel Martin, and this is TELL ME MORE from NPR News.
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